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Posted: Sep 12, 2016 09:17 AM          Msg. 1 of 9
Thou art a heartless wench.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 01:21 PM          Msg. 2 of 9
Why do you say that.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2016 08:59 AM          Msg. 3 of 9
Because this site is 6 years old. Our domain rankings are better than any competitor in our search words, namely text based games and the like but they are blowing us away in the rankings. If you compare our domain with Torn our domain and page strength according to MOZ or any other type site says our domain is stronger than anyone in the top 10 pages of Googles search for our searches. It isn't even close.
I have contacted SEO company after SEO company and have received two answers on the issue. Either they all say " That is odd, you should be ranked higher" which we should or they say" For the low price of $2000 a month we can figure it out". Not answers. I have combed through our links for hours and hours and hours, messaged webmasters around the internet removing harmful links to the site, disavowed hundreds of links, the site is up to Googles standard as far as optimization. Everything is done 99% with in Google guidelines , yet yesterday for example , we received a grand total of 2 new visitors from search engines.
How I have to resort to traffic is ridiculous. I either have to post on game forums on a weekly basis which brings about 10 -15 people a week . Pathetic. Or I am going through all our old voting links and voting on them and that is bringing in about 40-60 people a week. We get traffic from game directories but maybe 40 a week. I can't figure out Google.What is worse is I can't find any answers to why . By all accounts with our domain age, our back link profile, our weakness of competition in the text based games genre, we should be ranked on page 1. But as of now we are on page 5.
It makes no sense. In May of 2013 we got hit with a Google penalty, Penguin and this site has never recovered. I got a bunch of backlinks in Germany, Russia, Turkey and Eastern Europe. Google doesn't like that and hit the site with algorithmic penalty. Never get a backlink from Russia. That is bad news. Then we got hit with Hummingbird penalty then we got hit with Panda. We are under attack from Googles Animal Kingdom. I have corrected every penalty they have given this site but still no dice.
Anyway, Google is a heartless wench. It is freaking maddening.

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Posted: Oct 3, 2016 05:46 AM          Msg. 4 of 9
https://moz.com/blog/google-algorithm-cheat-sheet-panda-penguin-hummingbird

this link might help you with that. seems helpful at first glance.

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Posted: Oct 4, 2016 09:15 AM          Msg. 5 of 9
Yeah I have went through all the issues. Got rid of all those extra pages with games, videos, etc. That was useless content. I was trying to manipulate rankings with more content but to be honest it was trash content. So I removed all the pages and made the site more user friendly on finding games, learning games and letting people get an idea of game when they stop by.
I had filled all the pages with keywords text. Basically I was keyword stuffing. Basically I had things like this on the home page. You like text based games, we have text based games, come pay our text based games, did I mention we had text based games. Hence the Hummingbird penalty. So I changed all the text and removed about 4 million keywords I had placed all over the site.
As far as Penguin. That is a different animal. I am a bit obsessive when I decide to do something. Just a bit. Penguin is a link based penalty. When I found out we needed links to get good rankings I obsessed over links for a good two years. I linked to anything I could drop the link at. Well I think you can imagine the damage an obsessed person can do over two years. We are/were linked to some really suspect sites. At the time I did it was a perfectly legitimate practice. Then they changed algorithm. Now we have literally 1000's of links from all over the world. I have went through them 1 by 1 on 3 occasions and removed the ones I could manually but some I can't remove for a variety of reasons. So I disavowed 1000's of links and hope that would fix our spiral in rankings. It did stop the spiral.
The bad part of all this is I recently did it. Maybe a month ago when site came back up. Google isn't just going to rank the site higher overnight. Anywhere from 1-4 months before I will know if it even works. We are showing a slight uptick in rankings lately but it is slight. I think I need to get more outbound links to the site but there is the rub. I am freaking burned out on this stuff altogether and have zero desire to get more links. I also don't know which site Google considers a good link anymore. What a person might think is a good link like MPOGD , Google sees as a link farm anymore. Unfortunately in our genre (games) it's hard to find sites that Google doesn't consider "link farms" anymore.
Basically what Google wants is content that is updated a lot. Blogs specifically. What I think is best option is to put some wordpress blogs on each server and update changes and whatnot on those blogs. I have paid for traffic from Google, Facebook and others and that is just pissing money down drain. So eventually I might get gumption to write some horse**** blog to update content on site. Right now I am getting traffic by going through all the voting links we have and voting on them. Other than that...It's sparse.

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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 11:25 AM          Msg. 6 of 9
Just an update. These are more notes for myself so I can remember what I was doing . Google is blowing my mind . I haven't done anything on site for about a month now. No changes. I made the keywords for the main site Text Based Games and Multiplayer Strategy War Games and with a hook trying to land a spot on 1000 AD search also. Text based games about a week ago we were on page 3 and moving up and now we are on page 10. Multiplayer strategy games we are pretty much set on page 2 number 16. The search for strategy war games has us on page 3 about number 26. That is pretty high for a really competitive search, still sends us nothing in visitors but that is fairly high for that search for us. It has also been moving up. Can't figure out why the keywords I am working for are dropping and the ones that are not on emphasis are going up. We ranked number 2 in Text based war games. Sends about 30 people a month. We corner market on that search I think. We rank 5th on text based strategy games. Which our bounce rate when visitors get that search is close to 90% make an account. That is astronomical. Most searches land about 5-10% maybe less. We are number 6 on page 1 for 1000 AD. Need to move that up somehow. Great search because people searching for that are history people usually and this game intrigues them. Looking at bounce rate.
Standard has keyword of Empire Building Games and that is on page 2 about number 18. No traffic but better than page 3. Blitz on the other hand is Medieval War Games but it is at top of page 5. That is buried. No traffic. Interestingly Epic Warfare has moved up to page 1 number 6 and the way it is moving up and the speed it has moved since it has only been Epic Warfare for a month that will probably move up to number 1 on that search since I highly doubt a lot of people search for the term Epic Warfare.
I am pretty sure the graphics on home page are having something to do with the searches since when I got them do the guy put Online Strategy War Games and Anno Domini on the home page. Google seems to be putting some weight to the that since we rank on page 4 for Online Strategy War Game and Online Strategy War Games but as far as out text and keywords those aren't something I am targeting. As far as Anno Domini , I looked that is medieval latin. So unless people are looking for search is medieval latin that is useless. It should be New 1000 AD since that is what we are targeting. That is fairly troublesome.

There is something different in what I have going on on every page but one thing is common on every page Online Strategy War Games...I need to read more what is going on but I think I can fix this with more links or more content. But that is the problem what content what links. We are close. I think I need to abandon the attempt to land on searches for text based games..Google isn't having it. If I changed graphics it might make difference but that is a fairly expensive gamble. Give it one more month and by that time where we are is where we are and then will decide what to do. Could change everything to text based strategy games..

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Posted: Nov 24, 2016 01:30 PM          Msg. 7 of 9
Well it has been a month since I last logged in. Update on rankings. I wondered why Standard has more players than Blitz or Test by a longshot which it usually does. Went and looked. We are on page 1 for Empire Building Games so that is where the traffic is coming from. Not sure what I did on that page but whatever I did Google is digging it. Still on number 6 on rankings though so that gets about 5% of the clicks on that search so nothing awesome but significant progress. Moved up to page 7 on Text based game which is as good as page 10,000. Need to axe that keyword. Has to be the graphics that are controlling our rankings. Rank number 2 number 16 on search for Online Strategy Games and page 3 number 4 on Strategy war game. Not good enough for traffic but moved up about 16 spots on both searches in last month. Moved up to number 2 on Text based war games and number 5 on Text based strategy games. So whatever I did is starting to work. Slowly. I think if I moved to a private server and moved to a https we would move up 5-10 spots on that change alone.Pretty expensive gamble but on the bright side I have never been accused of doing it smartly. Will give it another month to see where we start to land but as of now not going to do anything. Some progress. I think if I worked just a little bit harder on the site I might be able to get good rankings for Strategy War Games and Online Strategy War Games and those two searches would get about 20k visitors a month. Probably going to go that way. Seems to be within reach.

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Posted: Dec 13, 2016 03:08 PM          Msg. 8 of 9
3 weeks since I last checked the rankings and there seems to be positive signs. Very positive. Whatever I did that last time I tore site apart and put it back up , seems to be working. We moved up two spots on Empire Building Games to number 8 on page 1. That is about 6000 visitors a month if we get number 1 spot. As of now, number 8 gets us about 6 people a month. If you aren't in top 5 you aren't even ranked basically. Top 5 spots on any ranking get 75% of traffic. The other 2 million spots split the other 25%. We were on page 3 for text based games last night but now page 6. That fluctuates more than any other ranking for some reason. We moved into number 1 spot for Text based war games , number 5 on text based strategy games , which when people come on that search they have about an 80% ratio of making an account. Page 3 spot 1 for Online strategy war games, Page 2 spot 18 for Strategy war game , that is the one I want. That is about 10,000 visitors a month. Moved up to spot 3 page 1 for 1000 AD. That is a good search. Basically we moved up anywhere from 2 to 10 spots on all our searches. That is pretty good. We are on the verge of getting decent monthly traffic if I can somehow move us up across the board about 1 page. Been about 4 months since I did the changes so I think at this rate and if all things stay the same by the 6 month mark we are either going to start getting real traffic or a few nudges of our on site SEO can get us there.
I think I can push us up quicker if I were to make our blog more active but that aint happening anytime soon.

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Posted: Jan 27, 2017 02:19 PM          Msg. 9 of 9
Lost most of our rankings again. Penguin 4.0. Maybe next year I will deal with this cluster**** of a site.

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