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Posted: Jan 5, 2014 02:37 AM          Msg. 1 of 12
Hey all. I have ideas to help this game rebound back to where it was before, and grow the game from there, as an 11 year veteran. I don't expect these ideas to go anywhere in this game. That's why I will code my own game, when I finish computer programming.

Problem #1: The game is too inaccessible.

Any good game should be easy to learn and hard to master. This game is way too difficult to learn as it is, even with all the videos and guides. There are way too many variables, too many worries. It took me almost 5 months to actually get ok at it. It shouldn't have taken more than a week.

Some items and buildings need to be removed to make the game simpler. Eg, food should be completely removed, and both upkeep and explorers should be ran by gold only. Iron and wood can be condensed into 1 item, material. Remove horses for exploring completely. Also a few other things I won't mention and how it would work. Civs would have to be changed a little, of course.

Problem #2: Some civs too weak, some civs too strong.

If more people played Byzantine, there wouldn't be mountain shortages. The problem is that whoever did the math got it wrong, way wrong. They said, oh, well there are 9 civs so 1/9 of the players should be Byzantine.

Actually, when you look at what many people refer to as the good ole days, the ratio of Byzantine to all civs was actually closer to 1/3 or 1/4 of all players, not 1/9. Andrew got Byzantines right the first time, and someone else screwed it up.

Mongols are way too powerful. Either give them weapons, or fort space but not both (I am planning changes to how you use tools, to make it easier for the new guy)

Get rid of Zulus, completely. I don't know who introduced Zulus to the game but it certainly wasn't Andrew.

Problem #3: Markets and PM prices are way off-balanced.

When wine (for example) isn't selling for minimum price, there's something wrong. That means that the value of the wine is actually lower than what is possible. The minimum wine price should be lowered. Most other goods need their prices changed.

Problem 4#: Get rid of local trade, reimpose the PM during pro, and add a PM queue.

Here's how you would benefit:

I'm a barb and I want to mage, but I'm broke. I could put some wine up, but it could take hours to sell. My only options are to sit online for hours for someone to buy it, or defense up and mage later. Both options will probably hurt your empire.

But hey! In my game someone has placed an order for 2b wine at 200 ea. I put my wine up for 200 or lower and BAM! Instant sale. I can mage comfortably without sitting around.

Problem #5: You need a much better pay-to-play system.

Talking about charging players when you have only a handful is a terrible idea. Charging for auto-pro is a bad idea, since the people who will benefit most from this are the new guys. If you're going to charge people, charge it for extra or unique items/buildings, or extra gold or weapons or turns or something.

You need a substantial player base before even thinking of charging people extra.

Problem #6: Banning

If the people in charge doesn't like someone doing something, it should be coded out of the game. There should be no banning for anything. Code it out, don't make us remember a bunch of rules, or it becomes a chore. Game Admin's job should be reserved for conduct and nothing more.

Problem #7: Online Hitting

Despite the cries of people that have their runs ruined, I say too bad. Online hitting, with a substantial player base, will happen whether you like it or not. I play a game with thousands of people, and online hitting is still considered a sin. But it isn't illegal. But I will implement an overhaul to the attacking/defending system, which will make those online hits hurt a little less. But it's going to happen, whether we like it or not. Too bad.

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Posted: Apr 14, 2017 08:58 PM          Msg. 2 of 12
Quote: Hey all. I have ideas to help this game rebound back to where it was before, and grow the game from there, as an 11 year veteran. I don't expect these ideas to go anywhere in this game. That's why I will code my own game, when I finish computer programming.


An 11 year veteran who never won anything, ever. Also, if you don't "expect" these ideas to go anywhere in this game, then why did you waste X amount of time typing them up? Oh, I know - to show off your "grammar" skills. Ahahahah... this was posted 3 years ago - did you graduate your computer programming class yet? Also, if you really want me to humiliate you, I could tell the 1000 AD Community how you spend your useless time coming up with little game/alliance names in past rounds trying to... umm... diss me!?! So sad. At the time I never really noticed it, but going over past rounds and seeing these strange names that so relate to my real life - yeah, you're sad. Ahahahah... funny thing is I don't even need to respond to them - apparently I had people on my side back then (that I didn't even know about) - the Bellevue round for instance, when you created the name "Mattayo_DontPlayo" or w/e and funny thing is the person right above you whose number was "69" (ke ke ke) was named "Umadbro" - Ahahahah... I see you didn't like the empire named "ALONEANDWET" hence your alliance name "Golden_Shower" Ahahaha - I wonder why... Page Hopkins? Megyn Kelly? Gretchen Carlson? that's just 3. Want me to continue the torture? ehehehhh... The saddest thing is no doubt you always were a terrible player, but you're an even more pathetic person in real life. Remember back in early 2010 we added each other on Facebook!?! Oh yeah - right about the time I owned you and everybody else as "Jenna Lee" (solo mongol)... >.< !!! Anyway, you started leaving really sad comments on a couple of my pictures (obviously envious) I know, I'm bey0nd pretty. (hate to brag) it is what it is. And then I just blocked your pathetic nerd a**.

Ahahaha... Oh... and since we all know my reality with... ehh... well... either Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah (OUCH!!!) or possibly even Brahman/Lord Vishnu - want me to let you in on a little secret!?! Remember that round back in early 2010 (the Jenna Lee round) you were Mongol and your friend "White Rabbit" was Japanese? I remember back then I didn't really care/try too hard on grammar and maybe even wasn't as "good" with it as I am now. Anyway, I recall White Rabbit insulting my intelligence over it in the lounge this one time (just mad because he was getting owned) - funny. The point is - I was going over past Standard rounds, go back and look for yourself. The round was Standard game 17, Lady Derini (Xoxo) won as Chinese with me and Mighty Mouse (I was the turk Black Tuesday) the best alliance was "sexy stalkers only" (shout out to my canadian shorty Princess) - Anyway, I scrolled down and saw that White Rabbit had made an account with the alliance name "Hells Angles" - notice he misspelled "Angels" !?! it's so strange for someone like him to make such a petty mistake like that (who prides their intellect on grammar) b/c they really don't have any other intelligence at all. (kinda like you) Ahahah... And then also notice the accounts right above and below him. Alliance named "Order of Secrets" - Shh... I know the secret now. me thinks someone (White Rabbit) lost his freewill and yikes!!! that was way back then - late 2011. Well, what more do you expect when God is nice enough to give you life and you just totally jack it off by being a sad/mad/useless/envious creature. Man, you thought you were mad before - just wait a few more months (probably less) - me and Dana Perino gonna make a "Horror Movie" - ehehehhh!!! Shh... Dana cat got a secret - she only tell me though! *blushes*

Well, that's it for now. Have a nice day. Oh, and before I forget - how's work!?! Ahahahah... super madchild! >.< !!!

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Posted: Apr 15, 2017 05:59 AM          Msg. 3 of 12
The guy had some pretty big personal issues. Wouldn't take anything he says to heart, or even take notice to be honest, the black cape and black nail polish doesn't really scream sanity....
Spend 11 years on something and still don't really know how it works, then you know something is wrong.

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Posted: Apr 15, 2017 01:56 PM          Msg. 4 of 12
Quote: the black cape and black nail polish doesn't really scream sanity


Wow, and I thought he was pretty scary looking without all that on. Couldn't imagine seeing him dressed like that. roflmao.

Quote: Spend 11 years on something and still don't really know how it works, then you know something is wrong.


Ahahahaha... true. :)

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Posted: May 3, 2017 01:12 PM          Msg. 5 of 12
he actually was / is right about certain problems though
not very nice to attack someone for his/her opinion, correct or wrong

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Posted: May 12, 2017 06:50 PM          Msg. 6 of 12
Dont think anybody is attacking him for his opinion. Think more so because he was a massive dick for most of his time here.
Bit of banter and he has dished out plenty.
Please dont bring the postmodernist oppressor vs oppressed rubbish here.

As for his wishlist i am not sure he has said anything that isnt well known or rubbish.

Did you post to give ideas or just to be social justice warrior sticking up for the oppressed?
The pm is very close to being formulated for drastic change. That has long been on my list of things to do but nobody really wishes to discuss it. As such it is left up to me who wants it and has nearly come up with a solution and charles who is the only one that could code it. Motivation to implement such a change would need to increase.

Gold or iron could be as simple as changing from all mountains to some plains land and mountains. But then with enough players it isnt an issue. No jump explorers and people prepared to hit explorers means less false land bought into the game.

The reality is it is a text based game. It is a niche market and will be hard to learn. There are enough people that were interested to have a very big player base.
The main problem has been admins listening to whinging players and changing the game to benefit a select few. People complaining about the game and the admins running the most passionate players away leaving the landsharing freelanders that make the game not worth playing. It turned into a mage game because of people like nwa who did nothing nore than get fed goods and land by other players.

Admin suggestion i have said for a decade. Should be a glorified lounge mod. As soon as jack took over i coded out the need for rules and took out the camping advantage.
There is no rules in blitz to do with gameplay. Just multis hacking and abuse essentially.
Have to get my code back in as i think they commented it out because the players complained again of course.

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Posted: May 14, 2017 09:55 PM          Msg. 7 of 12
Leeuw go admin Standard. That place is out of control. Hasn't had an admin in 8-10 months. Standard misses you and needs you. :)

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Posted: Aug 19, 2017 11:00 PM          Msg. 8 of 12
Quote: Dont think anybody is attacking him for his opinion. Think more so because he was a massive dick for most of his time here.
Bit of banter and he has dished out plenty.
Please dont bring the postmodernist oppressor vs oppressed rubbish here.

As for his wishlist i am not sure he has said anything that isnt well known or rubbish.

Did you post to give ideas or just to be social justice warrior sticking up for the oppressed?
The pm is very close to being formulated for drastic change. That has long been on my list of things to do but nobody really wishes to discuss it. As such it is left up to me who wants it and has nearly come up with a solution and charles who is the only one that could code it. Motivation to implement such a change would need to increase.

Gold or iron could be as simple as changing from all mountains to some plains land and mountains. But then with enough players it isnt an issue. No jump explorers and people prepared to hit explorers means less false land bought into the game.

The reality is it is a text based game. It is a niche market and will be hard to learn. There are enough people that were interested to have a very big player base.
The main problem has been admins listening to whinging players and changing the game to benefit a select few. People complaining about the game and the admins running the most passionate players away leaving the landsharing freelanders that make the game not worth playing. It turned into a mage game because of people like nwa who did nothing nore than get fed goods and land by other players.

Admin suggestion i have said for a decade. Should be a glorified lounge mod. As soon as jack took over i coded out the need for rules and took out the camping advantage.
There is no rules in blitz to do with gameplay. Just multis hacking and abuse essentially.
Have to get my code back in as i think they commented it out because the players complained again of course.

--- Original message by Temujin on May 12, 2017 06:50 PM
I played according to the rules and as a mongol I gave my feeders the required amount of weapons to avoid violating them. If I got 2bil horses I gave 2bil swords, etc.

After 15 years I think I know this game very well. I've had friends, I've had enemies, I've had enemies turned to friends and friends turned to enemies. Even people I taught turned on me. I'm known to lose my temper at times, I even ragequit at rank 1. I'm not perfect and neither are you. I hope you're not mad I found some friends to cat your ass. That was years ago dude.

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Posted: Aug 22, 2017 09:51 PM          Msg. 9 of 12
I remember you were a dick. I remember you were always fed. I remember you were insignificant and a non threat.
You were a middle rank player at best, when fed, and only noticed because you ***** and moan constantly.

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Posted: Aug 24, 2017 05:40 PM          Msg. 10 of 12
I actually agree with being a middle rank player. I played with both vets and noobs, met a lot of great people. I suspect you get just as nostalgic about the past as I do when we remember the past games. And Mongols are still way overpowered - so my skill looked better than it actually is.

Perhaps your definition of feeding is different from my definition. I was fed in the sense that I got horses and wine from my teammates (who by the way were in the same alliance - no landsharing), and after my run they got weapons, iron, wood, tools, whatever they needed. So they were paid back. And I was not banned. It's not my fault Mongols are so strong. I actually advocate to weaken them.

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Posted: Aug 25, 2017 07:43 AM          Msg. 11 of 12
Quote: I actually agree with being a middle rank player. I played with both vets and noobs, met a lot of great people. I suspect you get just as nostalgic about the past as I do when we remember the past games. And Mongols are still way overpowered - so my skill looked better than it actually is.

Perhaps your definition of feeding is different from my definition. I was fed in the sense that I got horses and wine from my teammates (who by the way were in the same alliance - no landsharing), and after my run they got weapons, iron, wood, tools, whatever they needed. So they were paid back. And I was not banned. It's not my fault Mongols are so strong. I actually advocate to weaken them.

--- Original message by aceshigh on Aug 24, 2017 05:40 PM
1. Team setup strategy

Usually I'm the Mongol, and I have a few Incas supporting me, with 100 cat and 200+ thief rls. The Incas will set a few pages up, one of them being the attacking page that they can f5 (refresh page) with. So they can cat population very quickly, within seconds.

In order for the camper to move they need more pop, and that means disbanding army. Keep a watch on the scores page. As soon as you see the score fall, cat again. And keep out of range of course. The Incas must keep close watch for any score falling, so they can cat the population quickly.

Now that the camper(s) are paralyzed, I am able to run with little fear of the camper doing an attack on me. This has to be done quickly, so that you can get a landmass and army big enough to start pounding the campers. The Incas can now possibly break the campers and homeless them, once the other team members or mongol is finished. They can be homelessed within seconds, using the same f5 strategy. Use thieves for the first 6 hits, then cat and thief every 6 turns.

I have used this strategy before to beat Temujin up a few times, forcing him and his friends to coward out and quit the game. One word: karma.

Landsharing 101.

Anybody that has spent 3 minutes in this game knows straight up that using incas to cat, and then taking their land to attack higher up, is landsharing.

30 seconds is all that is required to know that I, as you have claimed, would never waste my time disbanding army because I had less population when having no hopers catting me, leaving me defenseless. The whole thing is absurd.
Anybody that you could get to cat my pop, would have effected me nil.

Your overpowered Mongol, versus my Jap? How did that end up again? 2800 rls to 1200? Record rls, record land?

Could have quit 5 days into the round and still won. Just like I did when I stopped playing when with a week left when it was me solo versus fallen angels.

The stupid thing is, you actually believe you impacted anything.

If you wish to prove something, come play a round. Forums aren't the place for winning. You can't. Best chance to beat your best ranking of 33, is to play a round, when there aren't 33 players.

Mapat is dominating at the moment, so the reality is, if you are somebody that has played 100 turns over 10 years, and can't win against somebody like him, then you have no business trying to dictate what happens with the game.

Come play. Beat Mapat, then claim how to improve the game. The best that is playing at the moment. Unless Glo plays, who beats all but 2. And neither are playing.

Good luck.

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Posted: Aug 25, 2017 08:00 PM          Msg. 12 of 12
Quote: Come play.


You got it.

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